Scusate il cross-posting,
ma questa conversazione secondo me è da seguire:
Elsevier *vende* anche articoli in Open Access.
Aubrey
Forwarded conversation
Subject: [Open-access] Elsevier caught selling articles that should have
been open access
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From: *Ross Mounce* ross.mounce@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:57 PM
To: "open-access@lists.okfn.org" open-access@lists.okfn.org, open-science
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In case you didn't see this over the weekend:
https://thewinnower.com/papers/elsevier-illegally-sold-me-a-creative-commons...
Elsevier have been selling articles (for $31.50 + tax) that authors &
research funders have *paid* Elsevier to make open access.
This is far from the first time. Last year there was widespread coverage of
the 'bumps on road to open access' as they euphemistically called it.
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/elsevier-bumps-on-road-to-open-ac...
How many times will the academic community let them get away with these
'mistakes'?
If you know of any other articles that should definitely be freely
available, but instead are being sold behind a paywall by a careless,
carefree publisher - do let me know. We need to connect the dots on this
issue. I fear it is more widespread than we know.
Best,
Ross
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From: *Couture Marc*
marc.couture@teluq.ca
Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:42 PM
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Wow! We are now witnessing quadruple-dipping :
1. Author of an article pays Wiley 3 000 USD OA publication charges
2. Libraries pay Wiley hefty subscription fee (journal is hybrid OA)
3. Elsevier pays Wiley commercial distribution rights
4. Ross Mounce pays Wiley 31,50 USD (plus tax) access fee
Sadly, all this seems entirely legal. Authors choosing Wiley OnlineOpen
option keep their copyright but grant Wiley a license allowing it to
exercise the NC (non-commercial) condition of the CC-license. It’s this
other license that allows Wiley to sell Elsevier the distribution rights.
Note that for an article published with CC BY, there would still be
triple-dipping (step 3 wouldn’t be necessary).
But what is more troubling here is that when one envisioned or mentioned
such a scenario (a commercial entity selling a CC-licensed paper while
hiding its free availability), it was usually with shady, predatory
publishers in mind. What will we call those giants (Elsevier, Wiley) now?
So even more reasons (as if there weren’t enough) to avoid hybrid OA (and
Elsevier, of course, but this has become commonplace).
Marc Couture
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